Crowning Connections: Worth the Effort

Thomas Blackwell is a household name among the leadership of Monarch Roofing. His book, “The Liberty of Our Language Revealed” is among the top books suggested by our Company. Rob Clemons was thrilled to chat with Thomas about his life, share stories of how he because a speaker, author and what is to come. Thomas Blackwell shares from Emerson and Lincoln as two of his life influeners.  Listen in!

Full Episode: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1829238/9919893

Rob Clemons
Well, welcome to Crown Connections with Rob Clemons. This is a Monarch Roofing production. And we are very excited today, because we have a very well known author, Thomas Blackwell with us. And I’m very, very excited to have Thomas on the show to talk about the book. Welcome, Thomas, how are you doing today?

Thomas Blackwell
Life is beautiful, Rob. Thanks for having me. Pleasure to be here.

Rob Clemons
I love the the entrance. This is one of the things you talk about your book, he talks about having a great greeting and pass on that positive energy. So, all my managers that my work here have been doing the same thing. So we’re excited to have you on for sure.

Thomas Blackwell
Fantastic.

Rob Clemons
Awesome, awesome. Well, let’s get into a little bit about yourself. Can you tell us a little bit about you know where you’re from originally? And you know, how you’re born and raised and all that good stuff?

Thomas Blackwell
Absolutely. Well, I was born and raised like most people. And grateful for my opportunities that I had there. You know, I grew up in a home very loving parents, and in a small town in southeast Arizona. And my parents, something was going on with my father and nobody knew about it, he had a brain tumor and became a little bit abusive. And because of that, my mom decided to separate it from him when I was age six. And within a year, he passed away from a brain tumor. And so nobody knew that. And so there was just some opportunities early on in my life to, to forgive, to seek understanding, and certainly not unique to me. But those were things that shaped me. And so grew up with a single mom throughout my life. Which women are amazing, they can fill all these roles. And again, not unique to me, but it allowed me to step up. I had two older brothers and a younger sister. And but there was there was some turning points in my life, Rob, where, because of these things, I began to act out a little bit. I began to act out, in a sense that giving excuses to “Well, my dad died.” And then my mom met this other guy, and all of a sudden, you have two new siblings that, you know, she shows up with another guy and say, “Hey, here’s your new brother and sister.” And so again, not unique to me, but that we deal with these things. And what it caused me to do, or I let it allow me to do is act out and rebel a little bit. But that all changed in fifth grade, man. That all changed for me, a beautiful teacher that that set me straight is you know, at Christmas time here, and we talked about gifts, and I receive a lot of gifts probably like you have throughout your life. And it’s but these aren’t the gifts I’m thinking of are wrapped in wrapping paper with a bow on it. These are gifts where people changed my life. And there’s kind of a story behind it, I can share that if you want me to. There’s in the fifth grade, I was acting out a bit and my mom just met this guy now he’s gonna have a stepdad and my dad just passed away. So it’s like a crutch. It was like a disclaimer, you know, because my dad died. And I could go do things I felt like just to get attention. And one particular day, fifth grade, I mean, I would organize pencil bands. Behind the teachers back, you know, pencil tapping bands, and I would organize the whole class to fall out of their chair at three o’clock exactly. So so I knew I was a leader, just leader for the wrong things, you know, and it all came to my head. So one guy sat in front of me as a young fifth grader. I was the same age, but his name was Brian. And he pasted down his hair in front, but this guy forgot to paste down the back of his hair. And so it’s sort of like a peacock. And he sat right in front of me. You know, our desks were pretty close. And I had to deal with this every single day. So one day, I decided to change all that. And I took my Crayola scissors. And I cut the back of his hair that stuck up. Absolutely. So he grabs the back of his head and says, “Whoa, did you just cut my hair?” And I said, “Hey, hold on, you know, don’t yell so loud and your welcome, by the way, you know, just helped you out.” And he said so loud that Mrs. Bryant the teacher came over and she says what’s going on? And this kid said, Thomas just cut my hair. I wasn’t gonna say no. I mean, there’s hair all over the ground, you know? And she says, You can’t you can’t cut other kids hairs. Nobody told me that I couldn’t cut their hair. And so anyway..

Rob Clemons
Yeah man. That’s not in the rules.

Thomas Blackwell
Yes, right. So she did the worst thing she could do to a fifth grader. I had to stay in from recess with her by myself you know and so there we were eating my lunch with Mrs. Bryant and she but I had this disclaimer my dad just died, my mom was getting remarried, I had these things. I felt like I had this disclaimer, I could act out and she said Thomas Do you feel like the whole world’s Against you right now. And I laid into it, Rob, you know. “Yeah, my dad died and everything.” and she’s really play like everybody’s against you right now. Yeah. And she said, looked me square in the eyes and said, “Thomas, good. I’m glad you feel that way,” shocked me. She said, “Because you’re so much better than that. Uou’re not living up to your full potential. you’re using these things as excuses in your life.” And essentially what she’s saying, Rob, is “when you lose your excuses, Thomas, you will find your results.” In a way. And it shaped me It changed me I thought, you know, I’m gonna no more this garbage. So I became like the teacher’s pet. You know, I got the principal’s award and most valuable student of the school, whatever. And so it just, it shaped me changed me. So I’m grateful for these gifts that that changed me and, and really called me out. And so anyway, that put me on a different path. And there’s several other things, but anyway. Grew up, you know, went to college played Division One tennis and soccer. And that was my key to getting into college. And, you know, so very interested in athletics and things. And so anyway, started noticing our words and our language that I could win victories and when I wouldn’t win is because I was speaking, negativity. And so I just sort of had this gift. And I got into business and wanted to be an entrepreneur. You know, I married my high school sweetheart, 22 years ago. And we we wanted to be entrepreneurs. We couldn’t spell entrepremeurs. What am I talking about! But we, you know, we want to do something and be in business. And so we started getting into business and eventually had some successes. And after some not successes, some struggles and things like that. And it all kind of came up to where in financial, in insurance really, we were from one point to another, we made a decision, Rob. And I, you know, I mentioned this story before, but we, one month we made $87, after two years of struggling in the insurance world. And I was out man. I said I’m out of here. And I went to the guy that hired me. I said, I’m quitting. He said, “That’s fine, Thomas. But the only way you fail is if you quit.” Why do you got to say that to me, I’m a pretty competitive guy, you know. And so he put it right back on me where it should have been. Put a square on my shoulders, recognizing that I was not taking responsibility for my own success. And that’s what happens. Oftentimes, we, we pawn it off, right? And right now in today’s day and age, it’s easy to pawn off. I mean, all you got to say is “due to COVID I don’t have to be nice this week.” You know what I mean? “Due to COVID, I’m gonna have to live up to my potential,” whatever. And that’s just a general example. But it’s become very apparent. So he said, I don’t think you’ve decided yet. So I decided to make a decision. And Ralph Waldo Emerson says it best he said, “when a decision is made, the universe conspires to make it happen.” And upside, I decided to go for it. You know, and I realized I was just toe dipping before instead of fully jumping in, and as a result of that, the next four months was was significantly different. And I got mentorship. Mentorship is crucial. I went and hired a coach and a mentor to coach me. And over the next four months, we made six figures in four months, and, you know, doubled that for five years straight and had a multi million dollar business in my mid 20s. And there was a company had over 10,000 insurance agents and I was top five out of 10,000. And from from that decision, oh 100 agents working in my brokerage, three different offices, in you know, this is all in my mid 20s. And all the sudden, the company caught wind of that. And they said, you know, they had an annual conference. And it was there’s 10,000 agents, this the MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas in 2004. I’ll always remember this. And they said, come up here and tell your story. They said, here’s a kid that went from $87 to you know, $124,000 months, get on up here and tell your story. And I said you just told my story, right? But they. But anyway, I got up there. And they gave me seven minutes to tell my story. And as a result of that, people started calling me that were in that audience around the country and Canada, and said, Thomas, you need to come speak to us, tell us how you made that decision. Train us. Inspire us. And it just kept going and going Rob, it’s never stopped since 2004. So all of a sudden I’m in an industry now that didn’t even know was an option. Didn’t even know that. Because people said you just need to speak and by the way, you got to write a book. And what I’m going to write a book about? Well, I found that my common message was our language that we bring about we talk about. I mean I have this radar, right and you probably have it too. It’s literally it’s a radar in 60 seconds or less. I can tell a person’s BS. I got this BS radar, right and I think most people got about 60 seconds or less, I can tell person’s BS and just by what they say. Now, you know, just to clarify what BS means some people might be going a different direction it means belief system. I can tell. Yeah, so Rob, that’s why…

Rob Clemons
I thought you were gonna say yeah.

Thomas Blackwell
Okay, yeah. So listen, I could tell person’s belief system and I interviewed over 500 people over the course of eight years. And I, I would in 60 seconds say, “So you’re gonna make you here or you’re not” by how you talk. Like it was that clear in my brain. And so I wrote the book. You know, it took me 10 years to do it. But I wrote this book called the liberty of our language reveal, we bring about what we talked about. And as a result of that, finishing in 2018, it’s taken me all over the world. And that’s where I, you know, you’ve heard me speak, and I’ve spoken in 12 countries, 12 months in 2019. And it’s in English, it’s in Spanish, working to be in Vietnamese and spoken there six times. And it’s it’s absolutely humbling and inspiring to see what this movement has done. That when people change their language, they literally will change their results, their environment in their life, immediately. And it’s just been amazing to see. And I’m along for the ride. I’m just the vessel and a messenger for it. So it’s how we met. It’s why we’re here. So in a short synopsis, that’s, that’s how that came about.

Rob Clemons
Yeah, that’s incredible. No, it’s a great story. And, you know, we, I’ve read the book, my team’s read the book. And I want to talk about that a little bit in a minute. But I want to start off with some of the things that you mentioned along the way that I found pretty interesting. So you talked about first of all fifth grade, you got back on track. That’s pretty cool in itself, because you see so many people, you know, the story is, well, I got into college, and I got to where so they this teacher got you early. That was pretty good. Right? Good timing.

Thomas Blackwell
Way, good timing. And I think as I understood her perception of I had the power, you know, to create, rebelistic behavior, and people would follow that, or I had the power to create positive leadership and people will follow that. And it was dramatic enough, literally, Rob, my name was Tom, up to that point, Tom and Tommy. I changed my name to Thomas.

Rob Clemons
Wow, like a biblical kind of a change almost, you know, yeah. Yeah.

Thomas Blackwell
Like I started signing Thomas, I’m no longer Tom. I left that old behind and became the new. My full name has always been Thomas. But Tom and Tommy is what I’ve always been called. But I changed the Thomas. And I wanted a change.

Rob Clemons
When I was in, when I was around seventh grade, I tried to start going by Robert. And so I went to school, I was telling my kids, all my friends were saying, I’m Robert. I am Robert. And I only took a couple of times, and my friends coming home and my parents called me Rob, I was like, “Alright, I give up.” We’re right back to Rob for a while. You know, I mean. More power to you for sticking to it. Well, as far as your, your public speaking, I mean, you definitely have a gift for this, you know, and not everybody does. You know, when I saw you speak, you obviously are able to make points in a way that that gets people interested right off the bat. And one thing you did when you and I when I was listening, your presentation that I thought was really powerful and it’s a great message for anybody who’s an aspiring public speaker is you started off and you talked about your failures, a lot, on the front end, and I felt like that disengaged any of the crowd. You don’t come up and talk about how great you are you talk about some of the failures along the way to your path. How did you get to be such a great public speaker? And was that by design? Or is that just something you do naturally?

Thomas Blackwell
Great question. I never knew it was a profession, Rob. Really didn’t. The people just kept asking me to speak. And then eventually people said, “Thomas, this is what you should do.” And I was literally saying, “do what?” No be a speaker? And I’m saying is that a job? I’ve got to support my family, you know, and so I didn’t know. What I did recognize early on in my life is that I love the attention of holding a crowd of saying something funny. People would gather around in the on the playground. And they’d say, Hey, Tommy, tell us a joke. Or tell us a story or make us laugh. And people would gather around on the playground in a circle and listen to me talk. And I just thought maybe that’s normal. Maybe it’s not probably not. But I just liked it. Yeah, it was essential because I had I somehow knew how to work things to where I can make people laugh. And it was this payoff for me, like I enjoyed making them laugh. I enjoyed the probably the attention. Although my my natural self is pretty quiet. You know what I mean? It’s like I flip something on. But I enjoy solutude a lot as well. But I also know that when I speak, it’s with purpose. And so this, I’m adding up adding this up later in life, Rob recognizing this was, this is what happened. And so also when I was actually just asked to speak in a community, or a church, I mean, we’d have family reunions, and there’d be my mom’s brothers and sisters, she had seven of them uncles, aunts, they say, okay, Thomas, come on, tell us tell us the story. And I’ll be the entertainment. And so you start recognizing these little things of, of whatever reason people are listening, and and I had a way to capture their emotion and capture their feeling and help them laugh. So anyway, how did that come about? I started also recognizing when I heard other speakers, whether it was in a community event, the business event, or a church event, whatever it might be. And I recognize why do I listen to that man or woman versus not listened to another man or woman? What is it about their, you know, why? Why did that stir my emotion, I’m inspired. And I started categorizing them that there’s some there’s some speakers that an instructional, there’s some that are motivational, that are some that are inspirational. And I categorize those three, and actually write a book about it now, but that somehow I know how to inspire. I know how to dig into someone’s, you know, inside, and help them change things on the inside to where they want to change. Whereas motivation, just, it’s a smack. You know, I can smack you into action for a couple of weeks, but you’re gonna need another dose in a couple two or three weeks. And, and, but if you can inspire people, and get them to feel something, then change happens. And so over the course, I started paying really a lot of attention to that, and really just copying speakers that arrived at my heart that way and duplicating that. So starting off with, well, here, here’s a saying, you know, and you talked about failures, and I don’t I don’t see him as failures. I see him as opportunities for growth, you know all about the language there. But a wise speaker, once said, he said, “Thomas, people will respect you for your successes. But they’ll love you for your failures. With a triumph.” Not just knocked down, but I get up afterwards because it’s okay to get knocked down, but it’s not okay to stay down. So when, when you talk about your knock downs with a triumph, all the sudden people can relate more. They can say, “Okay, well, I’ve been knocked down and but he got back up, I can get back up.” You know. And so that’s that feeling. And it’s a connectivity that I am humanized. And so there’s all these patterns to speak. And I coach people on to do seminars on a just on speaking. Because that sort of fell into place where I had to start coaching people, because I’d speak and then come up and say, “How did you do that? You got to coach me.” Why don’t have a radio program doesn’t matter how much you want. So I throw out a number and they’d pay it and say, Okay, I guess I’m a coach on this now. Right? It’s right. So now I have a whole I have a whole company, you know, I mean, called se to achieve, where we have a coaching program and speaking and all that stuff. But that these things have just plucked me out. And and so I know I’m doing what I’m was called to do. And that’s a vocation. Vocation is a calling, not just a job or, you know, some employment type thing.

Rob Clemons
Yeah, no, amazing. And we’ll put and, you know, that was the thing I took away from it, because you had tremendous success is obviously such a great, you know, accomplishment, and with the book and everything you’ve done, and I just love the way you had introduced it as a opportunity for improvement. So I’m trying to learn to as we talk here, right? Well, that’s, that’s pretty cool stuff. When you wrote your book, and let’s talk about The Liberty of our Language Revealed. You’ve wrote your book, you said it took 10 years. Tell me kind of how that how that works itself together. Do you start with a, a structure and you know exactly what you’re going to write, but you just have to fill it in? Or did it kind of come to you bit by bit as you’re doing it?

Thomas Blackwell
So, I wrote a book because people said I need to write a book. And they said, if you’re gonna be a speaker, you got to write a book. And so I started writing the book. It’s real fancy, I opened up a Word document on my computer and started saying, “Well, what would it be about.” You know and I knew the languages was gonna come but I also I wanted to write like I speak. So Rob, you’ve heard me speak and others have I speak in stories? You notice that? Yes, I speak in I keep You engage that way to where you don’t want to move right your your peg to your seat that’s feels say like us. When laid out speaking in Santa Barbara California. She goes, Man, I had to use the restroom so bad and then they introduce you and you got up. And within the first 60 seconds I couldn’t move and I still had these about in for two hours I didn’t move. And that was her testimonial. He’ll keep you there if you have to go the bathroom even thank you. Right, so. So. So how do I do that? It’s just stories. And so I knew I wanted to write a story, not just a bark book. Because those are the ones that intrigued me. A bark book to clarify is a book there’s plenty of self development self help books, Rob that say, Do this be this change this change this have this have that it’s barking and eventually we our ears go away? Right, we stopped listening to a barque we tuned it out. And so a lot of these self help books and we’re halfway through our quarter way through, I got the idea. You ever feel like that, I get the idea. And you don’t, I’m going to muscle through the rest of it. So I want my book to be so intriguing to where from the first page, two pages I kept you gripped. And that’s by the number one review I get from people’s I couldn’t put it down. And so by design, because I want you to go through on a story. And so it’s that has to do with speaking as well, when it’s an intriguing story synopsis and people want to know what the result is, or the what’s going to happen, they will stay engaged. So with the creativity that I have always been able to create stories, I created a story based on actual experiences in my life. And started writing it. I guess 12 years ago now or 13 years ago, and I started with the story got going. And it was really a divine thing with me where I felt like God was saying, you know, set this aside for now, set this aside for now. But I thought well I’m I’m be a speaker, I got to write a book. And I struggled with that a little bit. But I continue to pray about it. And I listened and set it aside and didn’t continue writing the book. But then I went live life I went and started speaking and training sales teams and getting all this experience. And then about eight years later, I felt like God was saying pick it up again. And, and honestly, I was at a point Rob, where if I never wrote wrote the book, I was okay with it. And I was just like I was being obedient. And I picked it up again. And the stories that I write about, many of them happened within that course of eight years. So I had to have the experiences in order to write about them. I could have, I could have written a book and, you know, my perspective, you know, it could have been great. But it wouldn’t have been the book that it is now. And so I’m grateful for listening and grateful for the patients, there was a whole lesson to me and that, and then it came out at the right time. And it’s just a lesson for me and perhaps those that are listening here that have patience, you know, let let the timing be the right timing. And just to get something out to get something out, you know, do it right the first time and you’ll always be right type thing. And absolutely so so when it’s come out, and then it’s just taken off. And I can see the Hand of the Divine and all of it now and it’s so so I’m just I’m just a vessel, and I’m just really an instrument because literally every chapter I’m telling you, I cannot take credit for this, but I would pray about it. I say where do I go? Where do I go from here? And so there’s a chapter in there, and you’ve read it. It’s called the liberating language of forgiveness, Rob. Do you think I ever planned or thought of writing a chapter on forgiveness in a language book? No, wasn’t my idea. But there’s a lot of healing in that chapter for a lot of people, you know, so it just, it took this course beyond me. So now I’m just I’m just the messenger. But again, and I so I’m just along for the ride, you know, we’re the vision is to significantly improve the language and mindset of more than a billion people worldwide. And it’s something I’ll be doing, always because it’s an infinite game to be able to accomplish and I know that any chance I have to share the message, I’ll do it.

Rob Clemons
One thing I will tell you so and by the way, it is a riveting book. The story got us in immediately and you don’t want to put it down you want to see what’s going to happen next. And but as you break the book into sections, there’s a great message within each of those sections. And that was one of the reasons I chose to and if you are a business manager out there and you have some people underneath you that you want To get a word out to and you want to give them something positive that can help them train their staffs, I can highly recommend this book, I did it with my team. We did a little four week series on it, and they use some of the things that you just talked about. So I’m actually gonna go there now, and talk about the forgiveness thing, right? So I love this story. And I’m not gonna say it as eloquently as you put it, but it was something to the effect of the best way to get rid of the enemy is to make them into a friend. Tell me a little bit more about that.

Thomas Blackwell
Yeah, interesting that, excuse me, I had a high school teacher, my sophomore high school teacher. His name was Mr. Jones. And he, every week would put up a different quote A lot of times by famous people that we understood, but just something powerful quote. And I found myself memorizing these quotes in high school, I found myself being intrigued that the that I felt power when I did that, almost like a friend that when I would memorize one of these quotes, I could it would come up as a friend and a time of need. So the one you’re referring to, and the one that I definitely remember, one of the quotes he put on was by Abraham Lincoln. And Abraham Lincoln said, Have I not destroyed an enemy when I made him? My friend said the one you’re referring to? Yeah. And so in life. I hear I’m a sophomore in high school. So whatever age that is, 1516. And later, I’m married. And I have two children at home. I’m coming home one day after a long day at the office. And I’m, I’m in the yielding position that I’m at a green light waiting for oncoming traffic before I can turn to go into my neighborhood at home. And I have to go ahead and I go and I didn’t see a guy walking, he’s in black. Okay, he, he wasn’t wearing a visible clothing. It’s nighttime, but he’s out for a walk. dangerous for him to do that didn’t really see him. But the moment I did see him my own shocked me and I sort of slowed down quickly and recognize them and sort of held my hand and say sorry. And then I kept going well, he this offended him that I didn’t see him. He took his water bottle and threw it as hard as he could against my car. And he kept going. I thought he just did he just throw! That sounded loud. I got out and looked at the car and he put a dent in my car with his water bottle. And I looked up at him. He picked up his water bottle off the ground and looked at me like you got what you deserved. Seriously, did that just happen? So he just keeps walking and in… Like, I’m a sports guy. I’ve always got sports equipment in the back of my truck. I had a softball bat, tennis rackets, golf clubs. I, if immediately my mind went to use those sports things for something other than what they were designed for. And I’m not a fighter, look, but I flipped my car around. And I go around to that light and one of those side road lights that kind of take longer than normal. You know what I mean?

Rob Clemons
Yeah.

Thomas Blackwell
It’s not a main street light. And he just keeps walking and I’m thinking it’s on. Like I’m I don’t fight with this guy seriously. had no right to do that. If I didn’t see him, he’s wearing black clothing. It’s his fault, blah, blah, blah. I’m having this good. You know, this angel on one shoulder devil on the other shoulder moment. And I was trying to submit on who to listen to and I’m this red light is not relinquishing green until I get it together. Then all of a sudden, here I am you know, more than 15 years after high school. I have I opened up my mind to what is the best option here? Like what should I do? What would be the best course of action? And the moment is really the angel talking in moment I did that. This quote from a sophomore in high school that Mr. Jones put on the board was this, “Thomas. And I not destroyed an enemy when I made him my friend.” And it’s almost like Abraham Lincoln was sitting in my car. I mean, it was that clear. I heard it that audible. And I’m grateful for that. And the moment I heard this, I can make a friend or an enemy immediately. And the moment I finally gave into “no, I’d rather have a friend,” the light turn green. And so then I go and I catch up to this guy, and he sees me coming. He’s ready to fight like dukes are up with this guy. And I didn’t know exactly what I was gonna say, but I knew make a friend, make a friend. And I go out and I just extend my hand walking up to him and he’s sort of charging me Rob. And he sees that I’m not wanting to fight but I have my hand and I just said I’m so sorry. I did not see you coming. I’m truly sorry. And my hands just hanging out in the air. He’s not grabbing it. And he finally… he just hangs his head and says, “I’m sorry too.” I’ve still got my hand out there. And he said, “I just had a fight with my wife, an argument. And I left fuming from the house. So I wasn’t planning on going on a walk. And I guess I took out my anger on your car. And I’m sorry too.” And then he finally shook my hand. And I knew I had a friend in the moment. And I, I ended up saying, well, better my car than your wife.

Rob Clemons
Wow. It’s I mean, it’s a powerful thing. Because for you to do that to a stranger, where you had every reason to react differently as some people might have. You were able to turn around and make it into a positive. And a lot of what I do is I come back to bringing this back to the workplace, and how can we be more effective as teammates, leaders wherever we are. I thought that was a great story for my group to understand that, you know, when somebody comes in, and they’re having a bad day, and believe me, from my experience, everybody’s got something going on their personal life, almost no matter what’s happening. If you can remember that and extend the olive branch, I guess, then that goes a long way. So that was very cool. And it kind of reminds me of this formula. I think you had I don’t I don’t want to mess it up. But I think it was, it was event plus reaction equals outcome that I get that right.

Thomas Blackwell
Yeah, e plus r equals o, e plus r equals those years, but an event plus our response is equal to the outcome. So response reaction, in a sense can be to react is a negative sense that we dive into. But our response to the event will always determine the outcome. And it’s actually the only thing we have control over is that response. And if I attached a little word to the end of response called ability, we’ve actually been given the response ability to determine our own outcome. So the moment I give that responsibility to the event, literally, Rob, I become powerless. If the event has control over me, then I become powerless. But if I take control of the response to that event, I you know, determines the outcome by look, I’ll be speaking in two cities this week, you know, Oklahoma, and somewhere else, Iowa. To some big groups. And I don’t ride my bike. I fly, right. So, and I’m grateful for planes, but sometimes on planes, just to give you an example, this E plus r equals O, some people will, the stewardess will come out the flight, the pilot will come out and say “Ladies and gentlemen, we’re sorry, there’s something mechanically wrong with the plane, give us 30 To 45 minutes, we’re going to get it fixed and blah, blah, blah.” I love to just take out my camera. I get so much material from people’s responses, here. People, right, you know, kicking the chair in front of them that the airline just ruined my life. And, you know, some guy’s calling his mom in New Jersey, and she says, “I told you never to fly, right?” And there’s another guy who’s just reading the newspaper, “whatever.” And so everybody’s response is different. Some it ruined their life and some does understand. And to me, my response is this. I am so grateful they found the error on the ground and not why we’re in the air.

Rob Clemons
It’s great point.

Thomas Blackwell
Like they found the Mechanical air on the on the ground instead of up in the air Hello. Like what are we even thinking of course, we’re grateful. But there’s people’s response, it can ruin their day ruin their life or have preset, you know, perspective. So you’re right, it’s a powerful formula. And we truly determine our own outcomes. At this pandemic is a great great teller of people’s responses to events. Do they let the event have all the power. It makes you powerless or do you take control? Say, regardless of how things are, it’s gonna be great. You know, there’s a there’s a story inside the language of those who win that chapter. There’s a gentleman named Dan Gable. And Dan Gable is the one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, you know. He has 300 and something wins and one loss his whole life. And his if you know, wrestling, there’s a thing in wrestling where you when you take down a person initially, it’s called a shoot. So when they shoot to try to take a person down, that’s what it’s called in wrestling if people aren’t familiar. But his philosophy was this. Because if you shoot and take the person down, you get a point or several points or how it works. But if you counteract it, you can also get a point if someone tries to shoot and take you down and you can get a point as well. Well, his philosophies of this and it makes so much sense. He says, “I shoot, I score, you shoot, I score. Either way I score.” And so apply that to life. Our response to life is “Hey, economy’s good. We win. Economy’s not so good, we win. There’s a pandemic, we win. Regardless, we’re going to win.” And so that’s his mentality. His response is always great. something’s gonna come. Always great, something’s gonna come we’re gonna figure it out. And that’s, you know, that’s even biblical. I mean, I don’t I didn’t make that up. That’s a Romans 8:28 thing, right? That’s it all things work together for good to them that love God. So it’s everything’s always working for us, if you see it that way. If everything’s always against you, that’s your response. And you will play out your your life that way as well. But we have total control of our outcomes.

Rob Clemons
Wow, that’s, that’s powerful stuff for sure. And, and there’s a lot of other amazing stories in the book. Of course, we could probably talk about for hours, some of my favorites. And, and again, I know you’ll have time to get through all of it. But you know, meeting the real life, Rudy. Things like this. I mean, there’s some stuff in there that just blew me away. I love it when you talked about talking to water and the energy you give off. So. So maybe I’m doing some teasers here for those who want to read the book. So but I’m going to skip over to something now. Tell me, are you working on any other books right now? Or what’s up next for Thomas Blackwell?

Thomas Blackwell
Yeah, thanks for asking that. So as people read the book, they’ll recognize that there’s actually a sequel to the book. So read the book. And you’ll know if there’s a sequel, and so that’s what I’m working on right now is the sequel of “The Liberty of our Language Revealed?”

Rob Clemons
Do we have another 10 years or so to wait for this? Or is he gonna go a little quicker?

Thomas Blackwell
That’s a great question. I don’t have an end date, I’m letting it unfold as it is. We were blessed with 2020. And, you know, my whole year was built out with opportunities to speak around the world. And now they’re just now coming to fruition. So I what I’m saying is, with all like the when, when a great movie comes out, the sequel doesn’t come out even six months later, right? That movie lets it gather the whole cut, you know, so hundreds of 1000s of copies are getting out there. And when it hits a certain point, that’s my mark, of the sales of that book. Then then I’ll pop the sequel on the world type thing. Does that make sense?

Rob Clemons
It makes perfect sense. I’m excited. So yeah, I gotta tell you, it was it was a great, great cliffhanger than the last one. So that was a lot of fun for me. I would ask you, kind of as we get towards the back end of this, if you had somebody that said, you know, “Look, I want to get into a career as a public speaker, and you know, maybe some of the stuff you’ve done.” What would you tell them? I mean, would you have any advice, as far as you know, what kind of work it takes, you know, how many hours you got to put in it, just anything you want them to know.

Thomas Blackwell
It’s a wonderful field. And, one, if you’ve had that inclination, or if you have that feeling that that is the direction you want to go, I will just tell you 100% believe that you’re capable of doing that. And if you have a message, a lot of times this happens that people feel like they have a message that they want to tell the world on a on a grand scale, or whatever it might be, then then go for it. I feel like you’re having those feelings for a reason. And if that is a direction that you feel led and guided to study. Study speakers that you enjoy, that you resonate with, and copy their styles. There is a system on speaking and that’s actually what a lot of my sequel is about. The book is about is about that and, you know, the effective levels of speaking teaches. So I also say, get a coach. I guess, someone that you respect that does it very well, and captures. Because the straightest way I can put it is this Rob, is that if, if you’re good, and people want to hear you, it’ll never stop. It will just keep going and going. If you’re not, it’ll stop pretty fast. So just that’s it, you know, because it’s, you could want to do it, but if nobody wants to hear you, or if you’re just not arriving or connecting, nobody’s gonna want to book you and that’s, that’s been the blessing. Anytime I speak somewhere, I’ll get 2,3, or 4 more opportunities to speak. You know, here here we spoke. Don’t forget when I was even there might have been a year or something. In here, we’re doing something and I’ve done several others just from that time I spoke there in Myrtle Beach. And by the way, I’m speaking there again on January 27. And coming to do a couple more events. Yeah, so I want they’re open to the public as well. So January 27. I’ll be there again. Looking forward to it, so that it just keeps going. You know, I mean, so have a message be clear and then start speaking, get out there and and speak for free, you know? No, but I always say yes. If someone says, “Hey, we don’t have a budget,” great, I’ll speak anyway. So you just start doing that you start finding your voice and your message and it becomes refined and refined. So it’s just like anything. There’s like a sport, just, you have to practice and and when you get a lot of reps, you know, I’ve done 1000s of them now, all over the world, you get I’m not the same speaker I was two years ago. Yeah, know, I just I understand things better. And so just like anything, just like a great construction person, great roofer, or whatever, the the person who has 15 years experience isn’t the same as the person that just started a year ago. So it’s all the same.

Rob Clemons
You have to have a passion for it. Yeah, I agree. I think there’s a lot of perseverance that goes along with it, for sure. And, and, and you said something there that made me think of I graduated college with a bachelor’s degree in business administration, with a marketing specialization. And I know after I graduated, I was in that little what I like to call post college purgatory, but it’s just kind of a little joke, I was kind of like, stuck in between, you know, college in my in my career. And so I went out, and I started doing free marketing surveys for people. And I just basically said, “Look, I got this degree. So I will go out to businesses and say, Hey, let me you know, interview your customers, and we’ll see what we can make some improvements.” And I wasn’t making any money on it, but it was getting my name out there. And I think sometimes you just have to take that that step to just practice what you love. And if you really believe in yourself, you know, go for it. So that’s kind of what I think I heard there from you just now.

Thomas Blackwell
Spot on. It takes all sorts of effort and and now they’re, you know, things are organizing, you know, some some months literally come with 20 events in one month. Like 20 different play one month. And that’s happened that but that took time to build up. So have patience and understanding that anything of value is going to be worth the effort. And this is a word change. Let’s do right now. Because I’m all about changing language change your life. People say it’s hard and hard is weak. It’s, it’s powerless. You know, if I came to my team say, “Hey, let’s go for this goal. And it’s going to be hard.” Nobody would get out of bed. But yeah, if I say it’s worth the effort, so change hard to worth the effort. So life is, is all life is hard. No life is worth the effort. You know, speaking is hard. No speaking is worth the effort. Your marriage, marriage is hard. No more marriage is worth the effort. Do you see the difference? So anything of value is 100% worth the effort and it you show me anybody who’s accomplished anything, you included or whatever, or whoever in this organization, I’ll show you someone that has put forth the effort and stuck with it. And the great things happen when you do that, you’ll stay in it long enough to see the fruits. You know, there’s a there’s a famous story in called “Three Feet From Gold,” in Think, Grow, Rich. And it’s about a person that stopped digging for gold three feet from where the one of the richest veins of gold was. You know what I mean? So you keep digging, you keep going, if you believe in that, you know, be detached from from the financials, if you’re doing it for the money, I’ll be short lived. There’s a wise, religious man, he said that people will work hard for money, but they’ll work harder for another person. And the work hardest of all for a cause they believe in. So when you have a cause as attached in the, in the center of everything you’re doing, it’ll never feel like work. Well, how is your whatever you’re doing contributing, right? Or how are you contributing. And that never, that’s never worked. So there’s, there’s some of the keys to putting forth the effort and being worth it and just believing in it long enough to see the fruits.

Rob Clemons
Fantastic, fantastic tips. Thomas Blackwell, you’re going to be back in Myrtle Beach on January 27th. So definitely would love to see you when you come back to town and anybody who’s interested, feel free to look us up and we can get you that information as well. It’s “The Liberty of Our Language Revealed.” Fantastic book, I recommend highly to any listeners out there. And Thomas, I greatly appreciate you taking the time to be on with me today.

Thomas Blackwell
My pleasure. It’s an honor to be here with you. Thank you for the opportunity, Rob.

Rob Clemons
All right. Thank you to have a great day. All right. And this Rob Clemons, signing out for Crowning Connections.

Transcribed by https://otter.ai

Listen to the Full Episode: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1829238/9919893

Posted in Crowning Connections and tagged .